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Soldiers of Rome by Roboman28 Soldiers of Rome by Roboman28
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BrandonSPilcher Featured By Owner Jul 11, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I have to say the choice of palm trees as the background vegetation is a novelty in Roman depictions. A lot of people forget that Rome had a Mediterranean climate similar to southern California today.
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drewhammond Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2014
They're floating - No defined shadows.  Drew. 
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Roboman28 Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2014
There are shadows I can see running SW to NE but they are not very dark.
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drewhammond Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2014
As I said 'Not Defined'.  Drew. 
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Roboman28 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014
If you don't like something maybe the polite thing is just to keep quiet and move on.
I am sure you will argue you are doing a great service by pointing out how my pictures could be improved but to be honest I find it just plain annoying. I did not write the below with you in mind but unfortunately it still applies.

Some people feel at liberty to comment negatively on pictures when no critique is asked for. As far as I'm concerned my pictures are in my space produced with my time and money and if you don't like them go somewhere else. This is the equivalent of switching off the TV if you don't like the program. Its just standard politeness. If you see a girl in a pretty dress maybe you might compliment her on it. If you see an ugly girl saying 'my you are ugly' is not really acceptable. There are thousands of pictures produced at Deviant Art. Some are world class but the majority just aren't that good but I don't spend my time complaining about it I just move on. That is the correct response. If you don't think I should have a cross in a picture, make reference to Dresden or comment on German economic policy too bad. Oddly I express my art and opinions not yours. Why not comment in your own space rather than complain at other people's?
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drewhammond Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014

The following is from 'Wikipedia' and is their take on the term 'Constructive Criticism', and I think is apropos in reply to what you just sent to me.

'The purpose of constructive criticism is to improve the outcome.  In collaborative work, this kind of criticism is a valuable tool in raising and maintaining performance standards.

Constructive criticism must always focus on the work rather than the person.  Personality issues must always be avoided.  Constructive criticism is more likely to be embraced if the criticism is timely, clear, specific, detailed and actionable.'

As concerns that last part about constructive criticism should be: Timely, clear, specific, detailed and actionable, I think the following that was sent to you covers all those categories. 

From Drew:  "They're floating - No defined shadows.  Drew."

Reply from Alan:  "There are shadows I can see running SW to NE but they are not very dark."

Reply from Drew:  "As I said 'Not Defined'.  Drew."

The 'Not Defined' was meant that the shadows weren't dark enough.  And in addition the horse and rider had no discernible shadow and it too seemed to be floating – Especially here, no defined shadow.

I'll give you that I'm abrupt, and not that polite.  So we're opposites in those traits, but I would expect that someone whom I respect deeply, in both your art and character, would give me some slack for what you consider my shortcomings.  I have a thick skin and not easily hurt, and what you have said did not hurt me.  It went beyond hurt, it wounded me deeply.  And will be reflected in future actions, or inaction. 

'Nuff said.  Your former friend, but still great admirer, Drew.    

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Roboman28 Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2014
I think its better that we go our own ways.
It was constructive criticism but its just not wanted.
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muddychickn Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2014  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Wow. That's really nice.
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Roboman28 Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2014
Thanks.
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